Christopher West condemned by Alice von Hildebrand
I just read an article from Catholic News Agency about Dr. Alice von Hildebrand having publicly criticized Christopher West for irreverence in his presentations of Pope John Paul II's Theology of the Body. You can read it here. This is strong language. I'm curious about what others think, so please post your comments here once you look it over.
This follows a recent ABC News interview with West, which you can view here. Keep in mind that it was heavily edited, and West later said that it contained misrepresentations and distortions.
Update: I was just told about a clip that should give a fuller explanation of the comments West made in the TV interview. See it here.





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Another problem not mentioned is the frequency of T.O.B coursed being presented in Churches while in the presence of the Blessed Sacrament. The proper protocol is to have the pastor or priest remove Our Lord so as to allow the Church to be used for an educational purpose.
All in all, I was disappointed by West's course and found Bishop Sheen's writings and lectures on the subject, more informative, balanced and respectful.
West's presentation should be cleaned up a bit with a more solid catechesis in foundational Catholic teachings.
I read what Christopher West said, and I personally watched his series, and there is no mistake he’s gone too far, even if he said it was edited. I think his interpretations of JPII teachings are becoming more of his own understanding and not those of the Church’s teachings.
And here’s the reason why: In many instances, Christopher West seems to misinterpret John Paul II’s teachings. For example, in a particular paragraph, of "Love and Responsibility", bottom of page 275, John Paul II says: “Marriage cannot be reduced to the physical relationship, it needs an emotional climate without which the virtues - whether that of love or that of chastity - become difficult to realize in practice." An expert commenting on this said that, “the man's love for his wife must pre-exist the sexual act, since the sexual act cannot achieve the goal of man loving woman on its own”. Christopher West completely misinterpreted and misunderstood this and he translated it into his own language and turned it into a real disaster that I feel uncomfortable commenting here. I even threw into the trash can a book by another commentator because I felt so uncomfortable as a woman that couldn’t keep on reading. I read a comment by an expert who said that: “The center of the Holy Father's teaching is "to create the conviction that "the other person is more important than I." THAT is the purpose of sex education, not teaching someone about the importance of mutual satisfaction.”
So from now on, I only read the original translations, whether it is JPII or any other writing, I personally don’t read commentaries on books by anyone. Anybody can misinterpret thing his/her own ways and it can lead to disaster in the way we understand Church’s teachings. I think it’s important to have a deep prayer and sacramental life, though, (especially in the days we’re currently living) so the light of God can always warns us and suggests: something is not right, here.
Thanks, God bless
What Chris West needs to remember is that most theologians and saints of our Church have been criticized and disregarded at some point in their lives, or after their lives. It can be used as a time of growth when these happen. I still support the good work of Christopher West.
While Christopher West probably started out with the best of intentions, he's lost his way in his attempt to "relate" to a secular society. The comparison to King David ought to be a wake up call for him and his followers.
Pray for him.
Again, I've no doubt he is sincere in his desire to help others on their path to holiness, but West should listen to the recent criticisms, and realize he is touting serious errors and likely leading many catholics into dangerous territory. He would be wise to take Von Hildebrand's words of admonishment to heart and seek the counsel of Catholics like her who have the wisdom, truth and holiness necessary to be a real leader of men.
Christopher West's style of teaching TOB is reaching many secular Catholics and touching them. He's able to reach out to those who would never give Bishop Sheen a chance. Chris West has brought back myself and so many of my friends back to true Church teaching on contraception. Do you know how hard it is for people in our society to embrace this teaching when we've been brainwashed by Planned Parenthood and other groups, sometimes our own parents, since birth? TOB has also given me hope for a strong and loving marriage someday. Marriage was kind of a scary thing in my eyes... never saw a good example of one until a few years ago. Also, I have learned to respect men more and actually want to be treated more as a lady now.
As far as them saying West thinks the verse in Solomon is advocating oral sex... They totally spun that! I've heard him talk about Solomon before and he NEVER mentioned anything close to that!
I know how the media works... they try to get you to say something close to what they are wanting you to say and then they throw out what they want to portray... and then say well, that's the way we saw what he said. They are sneeky foxes! I don't trust them. You have to be very careful what you say and HOW you say it. I've spoken to them about pro-life stuff before and they've twisted my words to make it seem like I thought abortion could be justifiable in some cases. (NOT what I said.) They can also take one thing you said from a sentence and put it with another sentence to complete what they want people to think.
Also, the climax thing... there is alot more that goes along with it. Basically he was saying that pleasure is not just for the man or woman to seek out... but that it's a gift of self and that climax is a prelude/mini to the feeling of intense love God has for us in Heaven and God chose to allow married couples in the marital embrace to experience it during union. God is present during that moment... and that's the moment life giving love occurs. Children being the fruit of that love, given totally by God.
The interview took many things out of context... it's a knock against the Church... HOWEVER, the good I see is that many people who's ways are of the world, and not God's, will have their interest sparked. And in looking into this to find out more about it, will hear the truth of the matter. TOB just makes sense. John Paul was amazing and we have to remember, many priests thought he was CRAZY for speaking about it and teaching what he taught so openly. We who have lived in sexual sin... we understand it most. Because sex out of wedlock only caused us heartache and distrust of the opposite sex.
For me, Chris West is awesome. He speaks at the sinner's level where they can understand. So I guess his talks are not really aimed at those who have never stumbled in this area. God's using him to reach a certain group of his lost children.
To listen first hand, his talk can be bought for $5-$6 at www.nakedwithoutshame.org It's worth hearing him out... even if you doubt him. But I will tell you, that interview did not serve him justice!
West took a risk in agreeing to do the interview; he had to know he'd be spun. Mentioning Hefner... well, I understand the point that he's trying to make, but it's too fine a point to make on television, especially without control over editing.
As for disrespect, West is not saying that Hefner is on the same level as the Pope or, for that matter, that the Song of Songs is the centerfold of the Bible. He's trying to (perhaps ineffectively) use those comparisons as analogies to point people at the truth. And for the people he's trying to reach, those analogies work.
As much as I love Prof. von Hildebrand and her husband's writings, they're not particularly accessible to the average fallen-away-Catholic. West manages to reach out to those Catholics and introduce them to the Theology of the Body. He never claims he's teaching the entirety of it -- anyone so interested can read the text direct from John Paul II and see the fullness of the teaching.
Prof. von Hildebrand is correct that "There are many things Christopher West does not mention." She's correct that he doesn't exactly empathize that following the Theology of the Body's teaching is not going to be easy, that involves denial of self, of training oneself to subject one's body to the command of one's souls -- He doesn't mention or highlight that because he's trying garner interest in the Theology of the Body to an audience that's grown skeptical of Church teaching in this area, that's bought into the media's misrepresentation of Catholicism as a faith for prudes. He speaks to his audience and meets them where they are, and I think, on the whole, the ABC interview was worth it, because if even one Catholic learns of and studies the Theology of the Body because of it, so much the better.
As for those of us who have some familiarity with the Theology of the Body; well, we know that West is providing the Cliff's Notes version, in essence. But sadly, our modern culture many times won't even consider an idea until they can have it expressed in a Cliff's Notes version, and West does that effectively, bringing more people to the teachings of the Church, and pointing them in the right direction, along the right path.
West's not perfect, but neither is anyone else, apart from Our Lord and His Blessed Mother.
I hope he is not discouraged and others who are trying to help us out there.
A friend of mine was having trouble in her marriage because her husband was viewing pornography. They met with Christopher and he saved their marriage. Praise God! However, it is my understanding that Christopher was not one of the brightest students of Theology of the Body when he was studying it...but God does not call the qualified, He qualifies the called. Christopher continues to refine his delivery of the message of the dignity of human sexuality and he seems to appreciate constructive criticism of his work.
I myself do not care for Christopher's approach but I know he reaches a certain population of people that no one else can. For the already chaste, who want a more academic study of Theology of the Body, they may benefit from a different instructor. However, I really enjoyed his book, The Good News about Sex and Marriage.
Wouldn't it be something if God plans to convert many Playboy subscribers through this interview by leading them to Christopher's books?! Christopher has something to teach them, not Alice von Hildebrand (God love her, she is amazing!)
I think Christopher West's talks are refreshing. Finally someone makes Theology of the Body and the Church's teaching on sex understandable to the average person, and not just to people who have theology or philosophy degrees. His own struggles with lust, trying to understand sex and the Church's teaching on it while growing up as a teen, is something we can all relate to.
I think Dr. Von Hildebrand needs to understand that there are different styles of explaining the matter, and her husband's views aren't the only way. God inspires a lot of people, not just her and her husband. Christopher West is a courageous man, and if she really feels like he is going overboard, why not have a good motherly talk in private. Why criticize a man who is trying to do a lot of good?
My beef with the video I've seen of this talk was that West blamed Christianity for the mess we are now faced with. But this has not always been West's message. On his naked without shame cd's he mentions that we got it all wrong after the fall.
As for why reading a commentators version as opposed to the TOTB: it's not a very readable book and is beyond many people's ability.
We should pray for Chris. He is doing the very best and his message is important.
Perhaps Chris will should tweak his presentation to be more reverent of sex, but I'm not even sure of that. At any rate, I think Alice's criticism of him is way over the top, and is not unbiased by her age, and personal issues. She grew up in the puritanical culture that Chris is criticizing.
JP II was not against using the tools of modern world including modern language to articulate age old truths. I think the Mr. West is following that guidance, although he may have learned a difficult lesson when dealing with the media, and may re-examine his presentation as a result of this criticism, which any faithful soul would do.
Alice Von Hildebrand and her late husband, are much respected in the Church and she has appeared numerous times on EWTN and at Catholic Family Land. Cool. So why is she taking such a heavy handed swipe at Christopher West? I think it’s a big mistake.
Dr. Alice von Hildebrand first met her husband as his student in 1940. She took 18 courses from him, became his secretary and co-writer, and married him after the passing of his wife, 19 years after they met, 35 years younger than the professor. I am in no way intimating any moral line crossing, but I’m not sure this is the model of family life I’d be looking to for great advice on how to communicate marriage and sexuality to young people. She grew up in the puritanical culture that Chris is criticizing.
I think she needs to spend time with West’s books, and not rely on ABC specials, when criticizing a man who is trying to bring difficult readings of Theology of the Body to a highly sexualized culture.
JP II was not against using the tools of modern world, including modern language, to articulate age old truths. I think Mr. West is following that guidance. JPII didn’t freak out when a topless woman came for communion in Papua New Guinea, May 8, 1984. He ministered to the natives as they stood there topless. Alice von Hildebrand claims to understand JPII better than West. I’d be glad to have her explain these photos and the photos of bikini acrobats in the Vatican palace. She’s a philosopher, he’s a communicator. She should not measure him by philosophical standards.
John Paul II understood that the cultural context of an audience needs to be considered when teaching. Dr. Hildebrand has a great heart for the Church, chastity, and modesty, but I suggest at 85 years old, she is not in touch with the battle “on the ground” that is raging in our culture, that Christopher West is masterfully addressing, using the powerful teachings of JPII. This is no way disrespectful of Dr. Hildebrand.
Perhaps Chris will have to tweak his presentation to be more reverent of sex, but I’m not even sure of that. I’m still trying to figure out if he’s a modern Saint who is getting bashed by people in the Church just like all the other Saints were bashed.
Further, I sense a sort of pride here on the part of West. I think his intentions are good, but his approach is now straying into those murky waters of discussing a sacred subject amongst the sharks (the secular media). He may want to draw positive attention to Catholicism's take on human sexuality, thinking that such is evangelization. However, his approach is watering down the former Pope's theology so much so as to deprive it of certain essential truths. Therein is the danger.
Here's a chief idea that is missing from West's discussion, at least from what I've heard on the ABC interview, as well as the lecture by him I attended some years back.
Love is not just sacramental; love is sacrificial. West did not emphasize this, nor did he begin his discussion with this fundamental truth about true love. I believe Alice von Hildebrand states this omission in her comments as well.
Yes God elevated marriage to a sacrament, which does indeed make marital love sacramental. However, there are many forms of human love, and marital love (and not just the erotic love that is to be a part of the totality of marital love) is first and foremost to be sacrificial in its essence.
The core essence of true love is sacrifice. Jesus exemplifies that in His humanity. Jesus did not marry but He nonetheless did exhibit the truest of love by His ultimate sacrifice to die for us on that cross to pay for our sins.
I do not hear in West's discussions from the beginning this explanation... this foundational element which explains the nature of true love. West seems to jump ahead into the "excitement of the sex act" at the cost of depriving people of understanding what love is at its core meaning.
I also do not hear in West's discussion the relationship between love as sacrifice and our call to holiness. It is through sacrifice that we achieve holiness; it is the journey towards holiness that we achieve that "foretaste of Heaven's ecstasy" of which West rightfully draws a parallel to the marital act. However, it is NOT only through the marital act by which we can experience this foretaste. Let's not forget this! The sacrificial love of a parent for their child, or the sacrificial love of a friend for a friend, or the sacrificial love of a stranger for the greater good of the Church itself that also carries such a foretaste of Heaven's ecstasy, albeit through a different but no less valuable and meaningful experience.
For me, it is these two things being sacrifice and holiness, that are lacking in West's teachings as an emphasis.
To omit such is a grave mistake because it potentially deprives people of that full Christian understanding of true love.
Long before I ever heard of Christopher West and got married... I read Pope John Paul II's book (written before he became Pope in fact) titled "Love and Responsibility." That book pushed me to become a Catholic. It is a profound read; it is nonetheless not an easy read. That said, it is a book that will not grab everyone's attention. It is deep, very theological, and like digesting a big steak and potatoes meal instead of a light garden salad. In contrast, Christopher West's discussion is the light garden salad meal, especially what he said on this recent ABC interview on national American television. ;)
But I also think that God will draw a greater good out of all this discussion. Perhaps West's approach (his language and thinking and conclusions as flawed) will at least bring attention to the notion that Catholicism can reach the common person in today's culture, so as to spark interest in people to explore its teachings and draw them into the fold. Perhaps von Hildebrand's criticisms will add levity to this discussion, and point West and his followers on a more appropriate track for the long haul being a path more in touch with the dignity that this subject must have (so as to abandon language and drawing certain parallelisms that rob the subject of essential truths), so that the importance about how the words we choose to use to discuss something so sacred are ever-important.
Pax Christi,
Karen Chohrach
Yesterday, I broke open several books: Love and Responsibility by Karol Wojtyla, Theology of the Body Explained by Christopher West, and Man, Woman, and the Meaning of Love by Dietrich von Hildebrand. By mentioning these three books, I do not mean to imply that these works represent definitively the fullness of Catholic tradition and wisdom on the subject of spousal love. Yet these three books I have read, and they have all had a positive contribution to my own Catholic understanding on the subject.
If you turn to the last page of the Preface in West’s book, you will read the following:
“Popularizing the Pope’s theology of the body is virtually uncharted territory. Finding the best language, images, and anecdotes with which to do so remains a process of trial and error.”
West further states:
“I, like every interpreter of the Pope’s thought, bring my own personal perspectives, gifts, and shortcomings to the table. As St. Paul says, ‘test everything; hold fast to what is good.’” (1 Thess 5:21)
For me, the language and tone of West’s writings in this book do not resemble the recent dialogue I observed he had on the ABC interview (even if heavily edited). The language and tone and even content found in Theology of the Body Explained are respectful, and attention is given to the mystery inherent in the marital act as well as the concupiscence we as humans possess. Further, there is also discussion about the sacrificial nature of spousal love. Therefore, I would certainly not discourage anyone from reading West’s book, Theology of the Body Explained, as numerous references to the Catechism of the Catholic Church are given, as well as quotes from Pope John Paul II’s Theology of the Body talks made early in his pontificate (TB).
Upon refreshing my memory of Love and Responsibility by the former Pope, I am reminded of the extent to which Pope John Paul II gives a metaphysical analysis of love. The second chapter titled “The Person and Love” does such. Mind you, this is not the first chapter which immediately delves into the subject of our sexual desire (urge), and perhaps this is where West bases his own approach on the discussion about the subject of the relationship between man and woman? I don’t know. I’m not saying such discussion shouldn’t be made, for of course it must in order to carry on a full dialogue which reflects the Catholic Christian truth of the subject. But I am wondering if it might be fruitful to discuss the subject of man and woman in their spousal relationship by incorporating a more balanced dialogue so as to pay due attention to the spiritual relationship between man and woman? After all, the first sentence of the second chapter to Love and Responsibility is: “The word ‘love’ has more than one meaning.” Mind you, the follow-up sentence to this is Wojtyla’s declaration of his deliberate intent to narrow such discussion to that love found between man and woman. However, Wojtyla follows this statement with the ever-important clarification saying, “But of course even in this narrow sense the word still has various meanings, and there can be no thought of using it as though it only had one.” By saying such, Wojtyla is conveying to us the “richness” (in his words) of the meaning of love which, no doubt, when grasped leads one to an understanding of true love.
Having said this, I turn our attention to the third book I’ve mentioned, being that written by Dietrich von Hildebrand. Man, Woman, and the Meaning of Love was first published as Man and Woman back in 1966. Several reprints have been made, the most recent I’m aware of being the 2002 edition as a retitled reprint of the 1992 edition by Sophia Institute Press. Of note is that this 2002 edition was published with permission of Alice von Hildebrand.
From the first paragraph in this book, we are assured that von Hildebrand does not carry a Victorian mentality on the subject. Allow me to quote the following first paragraph of this noteworthy book:
“Although we hear that sex is overemphasized today, this is not correct. Rather, we live in a time in which sexuality is no longer understood in its true nature. People today are generally as blind to its true meaning as are persons who completely lack sensuality.”
I would say that this sentiment carries no hint of a prudish approach at all.
Further, I will add that Dietrich von Hildebrand devotes considerable discussion later in the book to the subject of the error of Victorian prudery. However, I think von Hildebrand does an excellent job of explaining in plain language how shame and shyness are two very different things, and how we should not confuse an innate shyness about certain things of this subject with shame. (Note: Dietrich von Hildebrand writes even more extensively on this very thing in his book, In Defense of Purity.)
To quote from Man, Woman, and the Meaning of Love:
“But shyness, which is often confused with shame, reveals our reluctance to exhibit beautiful and noble things if they are intimate.” Further, it is said by von Hildebrand that “To oppose Victorian prudery by the neutralization of sex, to tear down the walls of this mysterious garden and to see in it progress, is a fundamental error.”
Dietrich von Hildebrand is trying to show that the true antithesis to Victorian prudery is a reverent attitude toward sex, seeing in it something great, deep, and mysterious. I have no doubt that Alice von Hildebrand shares these same beliefs. Hence, I am confident she is in no way a prude as she has been falsely accused by some of being.
I encourage everyone to read Man, Woman and the Meaning of Love by Dietrich von Hildebrand as well. It is a highly readable work, a short but impactful read, and one of those books that in my opinion remains timeless regardless of cultural shifts here in the West and abroad.
I pray that our on-going dialogue about the subject of man and woman and the meaning of love will iron out how best to unveil the subject so as to preserve in a most reverent manner the mystery and dignity there is between spousal love, which by default will preserve and promote its fullness of truth within our Catholic tradition going forward.
Pax Christi,
Karen Chohrach
Pax Christi,
Karen Chohrach